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JF's avatar
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“Trump” himself is too stupid to suggest this, other than superficially. It’s Miller, Bannon, Vought and the Project 2025 crew doing the machinations. Trump is a drooping figure head.

Ian Mark Sirota's avatar

But will he take "no" for an answer? And what will the Supreme Court do?

It's Come To This's avatar

Given their past record on things that were black & white and crystal clear in the Constitution (the 14th Amendment) and preventing the State of Mississippi from instituting artificial barriers on when a vote may be counted, as long as it's postmarked by election day, I expect another 6-3 decision against him.

Seriously, the Constitution ITSELF without amendments clearly specifies that "states" -- not the federal government -- determine the "time, manner and place" of elections. It really couldn't get much clearer than that. We shall see.

crazy cat lady's avatar

absolutely, it couldn't be any more clear. however, that doesn't mean he won't continue to find a way to interfere with the elections. if all else fails, he may try to turn to the national emergency scheme to delay, postpone, or end the midterms.

Markopolis Balhaus's avatar

That's right. He will do ANYTHING he can. His henchmen will do ANYTHING. My God just look at them. Now they are handing out shock gloves to the ICE agents. Just saw that on the BBC. Shock gloves for shock troops. Yikes.

crazy cat lady's avatar

no, i don't believe he will take no for an answer. just look at the ballroom. the courts ordered construction to stop, but he kept on going. what kind of nuisance those courts are, huh?

Anon's avatar

Ian - Who knows at this point given their record. 90 days before an election states are no longer allowed to cull their voters off the registration list but they keep doing it anyway and the SC just let the states gerrymander even while elections were ongoing this year. After Doge stole our information - and at least my state willingly handed over my information to the government - you would think that they already have what they need. I’m not against showing an id (as long as everyone can get one for free if it is a requirement) but it goes too far in asking for “citizenship” proof. That is looking for a solution to a problem that doesn’t really exist. It’s not just about keeping non-citizens from voting but also people (women, adoptees and others) who changed their names and the people who can’t afford, find or get their documents together to jump through hoops. It’s a farce when even their own break the rules (i.e. Ken Paxton to start with).

Diane Ingbritsen's avatar

I thought the GOP was for less government involvement & more states’ rights.

EUWDTB's avatar

You mean that after 25 years of fake news, you thought somehow we could still believe what they say... ?

Anon's avatar

Diane - Only when it suits them. State rights on abortion but not elections.

Seems that some republicans love the baby in the womb but not the child in the room.

Mari Wilson's avatar

Well we know what the Grotesque Old Pigs have become. It's been happening for decades, people just weren't paying enough attention.

They are now the Trumplican party. And oh how happy would he be if they actually changed their name to that.

The GoP is dead.

James P Petrila's avatar

He’s not trying to prevent non-citizens from voting since that is a non-problem. His aim is to prevent citizens from voting, which for him is THE problem.

Mloowho's avatar
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I read an article yesterday here on Substack that said that 12 states have already given over their voter roles so the rest of the states that sued have all won their lawsuits but that being said it doesn’t matter 12 states would be enough to manipulate in an election because they’ve already purged people off the voter roles in the states that handed over the information. That’s a terrifying thought, we haven’t even voted yet and I feel like we’ve already lost.

Yolander Hunter's avatar

It’s not over until it’s over. We vote, we remain diligent until the end. This is not just about now, this is about the type of world we will leave to our children. They want to create self doubt, they want us to give up, before we start. Remember there are more us of than them.

Pam Birkenfeld's avatar

Well that’s true, but read his article because it will tell you what you need to know about the dangers. Doesn’t mean we won’t keep fighting but it means we need to know the enemy.

Markopolis Balhaus's avatar

Absolutely it's not over until it's over. No giving up. Ever. They want everyone so tired and hopeless that you don't bother to fight. They will look at those voter roles and if you even look like you may vote against them, they will find a way, any way, to come after you. This is fascism in its finest form. It makes me even more determined to speak out and be as troublesome to them as possible without getting myself and my family thrown in jail. Let them huff and puff all they want to. I guess they don't know Americans very well now do they?

Pam Birkenfeld's avatar

See the Christopher Armitage column on Substack today, a deep dive into how the Texas grab of voter information could negatively affect the election.

Jude's avatar

Ohhhh, crap. I'm not sure I even want to know. But, yeah, I'll read it. Thanks, Pam.

Pam Birkenfeld's avatar

Take your medicine, Jude!

Mloowho's avatar

Right? I didn’t know how to send the link and this Jude person is like coming at me. You should read what they wrote.

Jude's avatar

Could you send us the link? I just subscribed but don't see what article you're referring to.

Mloowho's avatar

I re-stacked it on my Substack just go read it. I Don’t knowingly spread misinformation. I’m not MAGA.

Jude's avatar

Wait, what? I was asking for the link to an article you recommended -- surely that's not "misinformation." Why would you not give us the link? Why would you say you're not MAGA? I assumed you're not. I don't understand.

Mloowho's avatar
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You’re unhinged. I don’t know how to send the link OK quit harassing me or you’re gonna get blocked. I said that I wasn’t Maga because they are the ones that spread misinformation and you asked for the link like I was making up a lie. That’s usually when people say that.

Jude's avatar

I'm not unhinged, I'm not harassing you, I was asking a friendly question. Go ahead and block me. Fine with me.

crazy cat lady's avatar

yes, ohio apparently handed those voter lists over. i'm disgusted beyond all reason.

Jude's avatar

I just read that it's Alaska and Texas that handed over their voter rolls.

Anon's avatar

crazy cat lady - I’m in Ohio and I am waiting for a class action lawsuit to come together because I sure didn’t agree to have them hand over my information. I’m disabled so I’m waiting to see if I get my ballot delivered to me when I request it. I have not voted for a republican in a while but my spouse does. It will be interesting to see if they get their ballot and if I don’t. The problem is that to the republicans credit they definitely played the long game and installed people into offices/positions that we weren’t paying attention to until it became obvious that they were not acting in the best interests of everyone. Now it’s sometimes hard to figure out who will follow the law and who will break the law and cheat.

L.D.Michaels's avatar

Trump's threat to suspend the November elections and declare marshall law is a ruse to induce Congress to pass his repressive legisltion to rig the elections in favor of Trump's candidates. He is the most staggeringly corrupt President in American history.

EUWDTB's avatar

Actually, if they don't pass the SAVE Act, one thing is sure: they'll all keep their seats. That's not so certain if they pass it. Imho, that's one of the main reasons why they're blocking it.

The GOP is the most staggerly corrupt party in American history.

EUWDTB's avatar

Many GOP leaders (if not all of them) have been VERY clear and explicit since Jan. 6: they WANT the US to become a one-party country, and they will do everything in their power to get there. This is not merely about Trump. The real problem here is the GOP.

Just look at what JD Vance openly said during an interview with the NYT, right before the 2024 election: whenever the GOP believes that "some voters" have been "misled" about something, they'll refuse to certify any election not won by the GOP.

How much clearer can they be?

This problem will not go away whenever Trump is gone.

The only solution is to get rid of ALL Republicans everywhere. Only when the party becomes pro-democracy again should we CONSIDER voting from one or the other Republican again (and it better be someone with a clean slate, not a former neofascist, collaborating with the GOP as it is today).

EUWDTB's avatar

That NYT interview, by the way, will go down as one of the best examples of how utterly hollowed-out the legacy media had become by 2024.

The interviewer very clearly heard Vance give his main argument for why he would NOT have certified the 2020 election, as VP.

Instead of asking the crucial follow-up questions after SUCH a blatantly anti-constitutional and neofascist statement by one of the two candidates for the Vice Presidency... all she did was ask him the SAME question again and again: would you have certified the 2020 election?

Then... she moved on. As if he didn't just say THE most shocking anti-Democratic thing ever uttered by a WH candidate.

In that interview, Vance PROMISED to turn the US into a one-party country. And yet, the NYT moved on, only to post endless headlines asking Kamala Harris for "more details" of her plans...

Sally S's avatar

Rump doesn’t like no for anything! My vote will count. Stay strong USA 🇺🇸!

Jude's avatar
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Re: this: "I watched our system come dangerously close to breaking after the 2020 election. It held because enough people in positions of responsibility eventually said no. Trump is testing those same boundaries again before the midterms. The answer has to be no again."

The problem is that the answer has to be no again and again and again for months to protect this upcoming election. Thune and the Senate Reps may cave. All but 3 of the Sup. Crt. justices may get too scared to do the right thing. We are on a knife's edge every day.

Plus, if his various attempts to fulfill his illegal wishes through legal means fail, he's got that enormous, well-funded (thanks, Schumer) army of ICE and other federal troops -- masked thugs, armed with everything from automatic weapons to electric gloves, and all with zero accountability.

God, I've just talked myself into a major funk here. Sorry, everyone, to be such a downer. :-/ But what the actual fuck are we going to do?

Mari Wilson's avatar

Hi Jude!

Forgive me, what did Schumer do to enable this ICE madness? Vote yes on whatever b.s. bill the bloated yam put forth? God I am so sick of these dumb dumb Dems, they frustrate the hell outta me. 😤

And hang in there--we are fighting the good fight and I know I won't stop. I don't have any kids, but I still care about the future of all of yours.

People ARE leaving MAGA and his corruption is just so blatant--THIS is why he's panicking.

There is also not enough time to implement all of these things even if states cooperated.

16 states have promised to turn over their voter rolls or have already done so. The DOJ has requested states to agree to a "confidential memorandum of understanding"

Correct about Alaska & Texas (shocker). And they signed the MOU which pretty much states that the DoJ plans to interfere with the states' authority to run elections and how dangerously insecure the data will be. They actually admit that in writing! WTAF??

MS, SD & TN turned over their voter rolls yet refused to sign the agreement.

How many residents of those states do you think know their Sec's of State did this? I guarantee not many.

THIS should be brought up by Adam or Aaron Parnas or Meidas Touch or HCR, if it hasn't been already.

Someone with a big platform needs to report this.

The DOJ has lost 21 of 31 (inc. DC) lawsuits it has filed in order to force states to comply.

Independent Media is gradually outpacing Legacy Media. Aaron Parnas and MT are actually beating Faux News in viewers. And Adam's following has exploded in the last year and continues to do so.

Lots of us good folks on the right side of things are not giving up. And never will. 💪🏼🙏🏼 #solidarity

Michael Otter's avatar

What part of the Constitution does Trump not get when it comes to who is responsible for running elections? He's not very bright, but is he really that stupid? Probably not, he's just a manipulating, conniving, arrogant narcissist, bully and sore loser. The only reason the Republicans are getting toasted is because of Trump. Problem is that he'd have to admit that he's the real problem. That'll never happen. His stupid decisions and his inability to lead are the main reasons for all of the problems the Republicans are facing. Remember it's never his fault; it's always somebody else's fault. Okay, now that I have told you how I feel, I feel better. Remember vote in November to shut down the madman.

crazy cat lady's avatar

the ultimate truth is that trump does not care about the constitution unless he can use it for himself and his underlings.

Dan's avatar

Blue state AGs, the ACLU, and Democracy Defenders are ready for court. I trust the federal and appellate benches. The Supreme Court, less so.

Mike Lindell lost a primary by 11 points — with Trump's endorsement — and immediately found "anomalies." Surprised? There was a time only 500-vote margins drew a challenge.

Democrats could flip five Senate seats, all within five points. Every win will be called fraudulent — that part is already written.

crazy cat lady's avatar

absolutely what will happen.

Nancy Munro's avatar

This needs to get more attention from all kinds of media! Thanks for laying it out very clearly, Adam.

Ida N. Zecco's avatar

Anything can happen. Dems/Independents need to show up on election day. IN DROVES!

Linda Cobb's avatar

Thank you for helping us! I really appreciate what you have to say and all that I learn from you!

J. Kevin Hunt's avatar

Mr. Kinzinger has my high admiration because he refused to remain in a party transformed into a fascist one. In my view, anyone in Congress identifying as Republican can only be considered fascist. If the party formally changed its name to the Fascist Party, how many would remain in it? Actual conduct is more critical than labels; the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is not democratic. The actions of Trump are unquestionably fascist, and accordingly, those in Congress who identify as Republican and vote in lockstep for Trump's policies, cannot be deemed other than fascist. Voting for any of them, is to support fascism. Those who support fascism are, by definition, fascists. Blunt? Harsh? TRUE.

Markopolis Balhaus's avatar

Yes that's true. Every damn word of it.

Chris (CJ Fitz)'s avatar

Boy am I going to be happy when this malignancy is dead and gone and we can all come up for air and see daylight and feel the warmth of the sun again. We knew this wouldn’t be easy.