A conversation with pilot and aviation influencer Gary Baumgardner (@GARYBPILOT) about the tragic Palm Beach plane crash, the rush to blame a female pilot, and the dangerous ignorance of commenters
Thank you for this comment. It is spot on and necessary. Sadly, blaming the poor female co-pilot who lost her own life is what we have become. I blame Trump for setting the example and tone for this kind of behavior: by his own example, he has allowed morally sick folks to crawl out from under their rocks and worsen the atmosphere of social media with their comments.
The ignorant comments made even before the fire was out just broke my heart. Women make excellent pilots. I’m 73 now but when I was in my mid-20s I went to ground school with the intention of becoming a pilot like my dad and uncles were. Sadly, soon after that, the price of aviation fuel went through the roof (due to the Iranian Revolution and overthrow of the Shah) and I had to put that dream on hold. The reaction of friends and some family members was basically “It’s probably for the best since you likely wouldn’t have gotten a job anyway.” I applaud any woman who breaks through that false ceiling and realizes the dream of piloting those amazing machines.
I’m so glad you pointed out the fact that the young co-pilot was on the radio and not flying when they crashed. She had to be terrified at what was happening and still did her job the best she possibly could. Instead of blaming her, support her and the pilot for doing their jobs at the most difficult time possible. Their poor families and the families of the other victims. My heart breaks for them.
This should prove beyond any shadow of doubt who and what the MAGA Republican party is.......Correction: This should remove any doubt that any sane person has.
Magats are so nasty. It is like the chicken and the egg...were they horrible and that's why they became magats or did being magats make them horrible. I personally think it was the former.
Nathalia was fully qualified to pilot the Learjet 60, subject to pilot-in-command limitations, but was actually serving as a first officer/co-pilot. During the descent, she was professionally providing much-needed information for the ensuing NTSB investigation, knowing that she was headed to her death. I seriously doubt that her critics could have functioned as heroically. RIP, Nathalia. You are a hero.
Thank you for continuing to speak the truth to lies and falsehoods.
This is nothing new in the history of nations. It's our turn to stand diligent against the fray. All of us in this thread truly appreciate your voice on these matters. We get educated and can speak to our own neighbors and communities with clarity, and hopefully in kindness and firmness.
I don’t like who we’ve become
I dont like who they have become. I am actually pleased with the growth many of us have made.
Truly specific!
Take heart.
The election proves that all is not lost, not by any means.
Not all of us. Thankfully.
Trump has affected all of us, no nice guy…ever!
Been waiting for your thoughts on this. Appreciate pilots perspective.
Really appreciate a pilot's perspective.
Deeply disgusted by the ignorant, malicious finger pointing.
Defining words for the MAGAites: ignorant and malicious!!
The damage done to our culture by Trump’s malicious soul will take a long time to rein in. He normalized hate.
Thank you for this comment. It is spot on and necessary. Sadly, blaming the poor female co-pilot who lost her own life is what we have become. I blame Trump for setting the example and tone for this kind of behavior: by his own example, he has allowed morally sick folks to crawl out from under their rocks and worsen the atmosphere of social media with their comments.
It’s what folks with weak minds and overly large egos do. Look it up.
I truly dislike social media just for this reason. Prayers and support for the pilot's family.☹️
The ignorant comments made even before the fire was out just broke my heart. Women make excellent pilots. I’m 73 now but when I was in my mid-20s I went to ground school with the intention of becoming a pilot like my dad and uncles were. Sadly, soon after that, the price of aviation fuel went through the roof (due to the Iranian Revolution and overthrow of the Shah) and I had to put that dream on hold. The reaction of friends and some family members was basically “It’s probably for the best since you likely wouldn’t have gotten a job anyway.” I applaud any woman who breaks through that false ceiling and realizes the dream of piloting those amazing machines.
Awe. Well I’ll fly for ya!
Also, I can’t believe I got a response from Adam Kinzinger the first day that I’m a paid subscriber! WOOHOO! 🎉
Please share pics the next time you’re wheels up!
I’m so glad you pointed out the fact that the young co-pilot was on the radio and not flying when they crashed. She had to be terrified at what was happening and still did her job the best she possibly could. Instead of blaming her, support her and the pilot for doing their jobs at the most difficult time possible. Their poor families and the families of the other victims. My heart breaks for them.
This should prove beyond any shadow of doubt who and what the MAGA Republican party is.......Correction: This should remove any doubt that any sane person has.
I worked for 3 different airlines in my past, and I automatically knew it was the elevator or stabiliser on the plane that had done it.
People can be so cruel nowadays!! I couldn’t imagine loosing your whole family at once and then people instantly pointing fingers!!
Magats are so nasty. It is like the chicken and the egg...were they horrible and that's why they became magats or did being magats make them horrible. I personally think it was the former.
I was so angry watching the media focused on the copilot and never even showing or talking about the pilot in command. Such a tragedy.
The PILOT was a male, idiots!
As a plane crash survivor, this chaps my ass. The gall. The audacity.
Nathalia was fully qualified to pilot the Learjet 60, subject to pilot-in-command limitations, but was actually serving as a first officer/co-pilot. During the descent, she was professionally providing much-needed information for the ensuing NTSB investigation, knowing that she was headed to her death. I seriously doubt that her critics could have functioned as heroically. RIP, Nathalia. You are a hero.
Thank you Sir
Thank you for continuing to speak the truth to lies and falsehoods.
This is nothing new in the history of nations. It's our turn to stand diligent against the fray. All of us in this thread truly appreciate your voice on these matters. We get educated and can speak to our own neighbors and communities with clarity, and hopefully in kindness and firmness.
So sad...