Just don’t “count on” DJT to help out. He is currently destroying our United Sates of America and doesn’t really care about any people anywhere. NO INTEGRITY NO Character no honesty whatsoever! He needs to GO
I give peace maybe a 50/50 chance at best, probably less because with no peacekeeping plan in place, infrastructure destroyed and Palestinians starving, this outline of an agreement lacks specifics, ala Trump’s usual style. Remember the great Chinese tariff deal, which has totally unraveled because China is likely to continue rare earth export controls (it produces 70% of rare earth minerals, including manufactured magnets used in defense production) and therefore puts US defense production at risk. T got so pissed he slapped a 100% additional tariff on China, making it a total of 140% now. China imports to the US have dropped markedly for months. If this tariff holds it will effectively halt all US -China trade. Trump thinks he will bully Xi into an agreement by Nov 8, the deadline. There will come a time when T’s bullying will fail. Xi is a tough cookie, so I would put as much stock in a deal here as I did additional sanctions on Russia. There are way more fires out there than Trump thinks he has put out. Untrustworthy behavior
tends to breed the same from other dictators. Let’s just say from my chair the world right now is becoming less stable.
Oh, and the rotten Orange has asked the Israeli Knesset to drop Nethanyahu’s corruption investigation because he is such a nice guy, and Trump achieved this huge peace deal. Felons of a feather flock together!👹🖤
NO! Seriously?! No way! Because Israelis themselves were protesting at Bibi's mansion! His own military was telling him to stop being such an a$$! I was actually expecting a military coup in Israel if he hadn't stopped the scorched earth approach to Palestine. Yikes... Yeah, this is definitely not good.
If China stopped buying our treasuries … rates would go thru the roof, and stagflation would rear its ugly head. I don’t see this mentioned anywhere. As a financial advisor, this would be hugely bigger than any tariff. Watch out, there, Mr. T. Aloha, Mike
I wish. How I wish. But Adam, this ceasefire won't last 30 days. Netanyahu cannot leave office without facing arrest. And the only way he can stay in is in waging this kind of cruelty. DJT is in it for the money...you already saw the plans. We are in a time unlike any you or I have ever seen, and certainly unique in world history. I do not hold out very high hopes here.
I don’t believe it will last a week! Netanyahu has not stated the war is over, he’s not celebrating peace. Sadly this seems like it’s another false flag of peace, just like the Alaska summit. All designed for one person.
Indeed. He's even warned that those celebrating the ceasefire will be considered terrorists. I don't think this ceasefire will last long. One side or the other will break it. This isn't over by any means.
I think the idea of Trump and others building resorts in Gaza is just giving Islamic terrorists a big, fat target.
I think that with the prisoners returned Bibi will now bomb all the tunnels. This would get rid of a lot of Hamas stockpiles and maybe many of their fighters. What do you think?
Not so sure...Trump talked with Herzog, President of Israel, about pardoning Bibi...and Bibi has made some strong statements about peace and a new vision. Remember, before Oct 7th, as horrible as it was that he ignored the Palestinians and pandered to Hamas to keep them quiet (he thought) he was the visionary behind Start Up Nation. This is not over yet!
No it’s not. But I’m afraid giving Netanyahu any credit here that doesn’t have another motive ignores the fact that a pardon allows him to continue his war anyway. The Gaza Strip is the motivation FOR Start Up Nation… he and Trump have said as much in plans for an international industrial camp…a great motivation to wipe an entire people out.
It would be helpful for all of to know more about what led to this deal. What role did Israel's bombing of Qatar play in all of this, for example? What was the nature of the pressure on Netanyahu that forced him to capitulate (at least on this one issue)? Most of this is shrouded in Trump pep talks by people who have shown repeatedly that they cannot be trusted to speak the truth. What is the truth? Netanyahu was not even invited to Sharm-al-Sheikh today, and among the many flags flying (including that of the EU), Israel's wasn't one of them.
Trump's only consistency in his life is a vain, microscopic attention span that wafts from one shiny bit of fake gold tinfoil straight to another as soon as his focus wanders (which is all the time). Yet real peace requires not just the mastery of details but the strength and willingness to work out those details, rather than issue goofy claims which could not possibly be true at such an early stage.
I fear most of this is mostly about new Trump real estate and hotels in Gaza, acquired by Jared Kushner, managed by Israelis. While we all rejoice that no bombs are falling in Gaza, the aid trucks are coming in by the hundred, and Israeli families are being reunited with those stolen from them 3 years ago, it remains unclear how this is all connected to peace or a long-term Palestinian state.
I woke up this morning to see the 20 living hostages return. That was so good for their families. I watched the Palestinian prisoners return to a devastated population but, again, so good for their families. I fear that it's a phony peace because the Israeli gov't under Netanyahu was basically forced into this plan both by international pressure and, in the end, by Trump's deciding that he'd make more money keeping the Arab billionaires happy than ignoring the humanitarian carnage that Netanyahu was inflicting. The big question now for me is will Israel continue to turn against Netanyahu and the expansionist far right members of the cabinet and get him out of office. Or will it be back to business as usual as soon as the dust settles.
And I agree with your final paragraph. If allowed, Gaza may well be turned into another unaffordable billionaire playground, the Monaco of the Middle East. Because I don't think there is any conscience in this peace apart from quieting down the protesters and the rest of the world so the billionaires can conduct business as usual.
Spot on Adam! Not one mention by Trump of how peace can be achieved when a homeless. hungry, wounded grieving people are left with a sea of ruins. This peace is still a long way away because you cant inflict this much pain on young boys and not expect some blowback when they grow up.
I agree with you that the Palestinians must have an active role in the redevelopment of Gaza. But the problem is Hamas, which has already started executing alleged Israeli sympathizers. Do you really think Hamas will lay down their arms and fade into oblivion? I find that hard to imagine. I hope I am wrong.
They will never ever give up as their only goal in life is the destruction of Israel. They were born into that and it is part of their DNA. It has been this way for centuries. They will never lay down their arms.
Another plan for the rich to become richer. Trump & minions don't care a think about real people who can't do anything to make them more wealthy or powerful. I live on St. Croix where there was an influx of Palastinians starting in the 60's. They have worked hard and become good neighbors and citizens of the USVI. The issues in the middle east have been ongoing for hundreds of years. We and the world need true leaders, not greedy ones to make this peace work.
I can't imagine that in the end, like let's say in a year from now, all will be well in Gaza or the West Bank. Decades ago David Ben-Gurion warned that not giving the Palestinians a homeland would be an eventual disaster. Here we are.
Uh not quite so simple as Israel not giving the Palestinians a homeland. They were offered the same partition plan in 1948 that Israel said yes to and turned it down. Again in the 2000 and 2008. This is a co-created conflict with many complex tentacles. The sooner we all can hold a new narrative that includes the historical claims both peoples have to some of the land, and the way each have traumatized and been traumatized by each other with an eye toward a better future, the better it will be for both..and for all of us!
I take your point. I'm wondering how a new narrative can emerge, as per your excellent point that both Palestinians and Israelis have historical claims to some of the land. Those historical claims are the very hard nut to crack and the reason this situation persists. The history of the partition is beyond complex, I won't even begin to tackle it here. It is also a tragedy that leaders of both an Arab state (Anwar Sadat) and Israel (Yitzhak Rabin)have been assassinated in part because they were attempting to create a new narrative. Moving past this bloody history will be phenomenally difficult. We can only hope it will happen.
Yes it's deeply complex. Yet so many co-existence groups are already on the ground doing this work. October 7th was a set back but they are starting to grow again. Roots/Shorashim/Judur (friendsofroots.net) is a group I dearly love (they are about to do their yearly US tour and we are bringing them to the Bay Area again). They are doing the deepest healing work I know..of narrative, of the ways both have traumatized the other, they learn Hebrew and Arabic, study each other's religious texts and do work on the ground to stop the West Bank/JS violence. Many of the peoples from both are quite aligned with the something new idea/narrative and work. The leaders from both have been horrific..and yes, when good, have been assassinated. The only way through is that more and more leaders step forward. I think the fact that so many Muslim and Arab countries and the PA and Israel have all signed on to this deal is a very hopeful sign...the most hope I've seen since the last talks broke down in 2008.
Agree that Trump was only person who could push the Israelis and Hamas to end this now. Relieved for the hostages and their families, that they have now been freed.
Of course he could have done this eight months ago, but he wasn't interested after the inaugeration. Didn't need the extra headline at the time. Know it's only a coincidence this is happening around the time the Nobel peace prize is being awarded. And helps to distract folks from asking about those armed forces in our own cities and all this silly talk about Epstein.
Trump is too transactional and we've become too cynical to accept anything from him at face value.
Your point that we've become too cynical to accept anything Trump says at face value is spot on. I don't believe anything he says because he's said so many contradictory things, let alone his thousands of lies. IMO he can't be trusted.
Trump was not the only person who could have orchestrated a cease fire. Please don't build his importance. He calculated how he could benefit financially and politically and then acted in his own interests. This has also become a massive diversion from addressing Ukraine and strongly resisting Putin. Remember? "End it on the first day."
This peace deal will fall apart or it will succeed as Trump self deals and gives away the US to Arab countries. It’s already happening. A Qatari airbase in Idaho is only the first giveaway. Thank God the hostages are home. My heart is broken for the families whose loved ones didn’t make it. The history is more complicated than Trump knows or cares enough about to educate himself.
Trump is in this only for himself probably to grift off of others misfortunes and build a Trump hotel in Gaza. Unfortunately, he didn't get involved in this because he cares about peace.
I agree. If there is something in it for him, he will do what it takes to look like the hero, though he never is.(take the situation with Machado dedicating the Nobel Prize to him, when he probably threatened to stop his support of Venezuela if she didn't. BTW, I don't know just why he hates Maduro since he seems to like dictators. I'm sure there is a reason that's been a personal slight to him)
Why is everybody looking through “rose colored “ glasses. Neither Trump or Netanyahu can be trusted. They are liars and when it is opportune the feces will hit the fan and Gaza’s citizens will suffer again!
Yes. I can't see how that can work. A visionary that understands socialistic processes, and an understanding of the local cultures social values would be required - that would not be DJT. Big money people want to Capitalize the rebuild, but the people there need to be able to grow their own food. Start with water and sewage infrastructure and see where that goes.
Adam, I am grateful the hostages are all released. However, their nightmare and the Palestinians still continues. I grieve for the people of the region that need the basics of life; such as safe housing, food and water, etc. This as trump dreams of the next Noble Peace Prize and his already-created gaudy trump resort city. Thank you, Adam for educating us on this latest development!
Just don’t “count on” DJT to help out. He is currently destroying our United Sates of America and doesn’t really care about any people anywhere. NO INTEGRITY NO Character no honesty whatsoever! He needs to GO
PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. HOW ABOUT SOME PEACE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, DONALD!!!!!
I will second that!
I give peace maybe a 50/50 chance at best, probably less because with no peacekeeping plan in place, infrastructure destroyed and Palestinians starving, this outline of an agreement lacks specifics, ala Trump’s usual style. Remember the great Chinese tariff deal, which has totally unraveled because China is likely to continue rare earth export controls (it produces 70% of rare earth minerals, including manufactured magnets used in defense production) and therefore puts US defense production at risk. T got so pissed he slapped a 100% additional tariff on China, making it a total of 140% now. China imports to the US have dropped markedly for months. If this tariff holds it will effectively halt all US -China trade. Trump thinks he will bully Xi into an agreement by Nov 8, the deadline. There will come a time when T’s bullying will fail. Xi is a tough cookie, so I would put as much stock in a deal here as I did additional sanctions on Russia. There are way more fires out there than Trump thinks he has put out. Untrustworthy behavior
tends to breed the same from other dictators. Let’s just say from my chair the world right now is becoming less stable.
Oh, and the rotten Orange has asked the Israeli Knesset to drop Nethanyahu’s corruption investigation because he is such a nice guy, and Trump achieved this huge peace deal. Felons of a feather flock together!👹🖤
NO! Seriously?! No way! Because Israelis themselves were protesting at Bibi's mansion! His own military was telling him to stop being such an a$$! I was actually expecting a military coup in Israel if he hadn't stopped the scorched earth approach to Palestine. Yikes... Yeah, this is definitely not good.
If China stopped buying our treasuries … rates would go thru the roof, and stagflation would rear its ugly head. I don’t see this mentioned anywhere. As a financial advisor, this would be hugely bigger than any tariff. Watch out, there, Mr. T. Aloha, Mike
Exactly! It sounds like yet another of his "I have a concept of an idea".
For the sake of all people involved I hope it works If it fails it will be the democrats that caused it.
Love your sense of humor.
I wish. How I wish. But Adam, this ceasefire won't last 30 days. Netanyahu cannot leave office without facing arrest. And the only way he can stay in is in waging this kind of cruelty. DJT is in it for the money...you already saw the plans. We are in a time unlike any you or I have ever seen, and certainly unique in world history. I do not hold out very high hopes here.
I don’t believe it will last a week! Netanyahu has not stated the war is over, he’s not celebrating peace. Sadly this seems like it’s another false flag of peace, just like the Alaska summit. All designed for one person.
Indeed. He's even warned that those celebrating the ceasefire will be considered terrorists. I don't think this ceasefire will last long. One side or the other will break it. This isn't over by any means.
I think the idea of Trump and others building resorts in Gaza is just giving Islamic terrorists a big, fat target.
I think that with the prisoners returned Bibi will now bomb all the tunnels. This would get rid of a lot of Hamas stockpiles and maybe many of their fighters. What do you think?
Wouldn't surprise me. Or some manufactured excuse.
Not so sure...Trump talked with Herzog, President of Israel, about pardoning Bibi...and Bibi has made some strong statements about peace and a new vision. Remember, before Oct 7th, as horrible as it was that he ignored the Palestinians and pandered to Hamas to keep them quiet (he thought) he was the visionary behind Start Up Nation. This is not over yet!
No it’s not. But I’m afraid giving Netanyahu any credit here that doesn’t have another motive ignores the fact that a pardon allows him to continue his war anyway. The Gaza Strip is the motivation FOR Start Up Nation… he and Trump have said as much in plans for an international industrial camp…a great motivation to wipe an entire people out.
It would be helpful for all of to know more about what led to this deal. What role did Israel's bombing of Qatar play in all of this, for example? What was the nature of the pressure on Netanyahu that forced him to capitulate (at least on this one issue)? Most of this is shrouded in Trump pep talks by people who have shown repeatedly that they cannot be trusted to speak the truth. What is the truth? Netanyahu was not even invited to Sharm-al-Sheikh today, and among the many flags flying (including that of the EU), Israel's wasn't one of them.
Trump's only consistency in his life is a vain, microscopic attention span that wafts from one shiny bit of fake gold tinfoil straight to another as soon as his focus wanders (which is all the time). Yet real peace requires not just the mastery of details but the strength and willingness to work out those details, rather than issue goofy claims which could not possibly be true at such an early stage.
I fear most of this is mostly about new Trump real estate and hotels in Gaza, acquired by Jared Kushner, managed by Israelis. While we all rejoice that no bombs are falling in Gaza, the aid trucks are coming in by the hundred, and Israeli families are being reunited with those stolen from them 3 years ago, it remains unclear how this is all connected to peace or a long-term Palestinian state.
I woke up this morning to see the 20 living hostages return. That was so good for their families. I watched the Palestinian prisoners return to a devastated population but, again, so good for their families. I fear that it's a phony peace because the Israeli gov't under Netanyahu was basically forced into this plan both by international pressure and, in the end, by Trump's deciding that he'd make more money keeping the Arab billionaires happy than ignoring the humanitarian carnage that Netanyahu was inflicting. The big question now for me is will Israel continue to turn against Netanyahu and the expansionist far right members of the cabinet and get him out of office. Or will it be back to business as usual as soon as the dust settles.
And I agree with your final paragraph. If allowed, Gaza may well be turned into another unaffordable billionaire playground, the Monaco of the Middle East. Because I don't think there is any conscience in this peace apart from quieting down the protesters and the rest of the world so the billionaires can conduct business as usual.
We have to keep asking the right questions. For now, let us rejoice at the reunion of shattered families, the silence in the skies over Gaza.
Spot on Adam! Not one mention by Trump of how peace can be achieved when a homeless. hungry, wounded grieving people are left with a sea of ruins. This peace is still a long way away because you cant inflict this much pain on young boys and not expect some blowback when they grow up.
I agree. The things they've experienced will never leave them.
I agree with you that the Palestinians must have an active role in the redevelopment of Gaza. But the problem is Hamas, which has already started executing alleged Israeli sympathizers. Do you really think Hamas will lay down their arms and fade into oblivion? I find that hard to imagine. I hope I am wrong.
They will never ever give up as their only goal in life is the destruction of Israel. They were born into that and it is part of their DNA. It has been this way for centuries. They will never lay down their arms.
Another plan for the rich to become richer. Trump & minions don't care a think about real people who can't do anything to make them more wealthy or powerful. I live on St. Croix where there was an influx of Palastinians starting in the 60's. They have worked hard and become good neighbors and citizens of the USVI. The issues in the middle east have been ongoing for hundreds of years. We and the world need true leaders, not greedy ones to make this peace work.
I can't imagine that in the end, like let's say in a year from now, all will be well in Gaza or the West Bank. Decades ago David Ben-Gurion warned that not giving the Palestinians a homeland would be an eventual disaster. Here we are.
Uh not quite so simple as Israel not giving the Palestinians a homeland. They were offered the same partition plan in 1948 that Israel said yes to and turned it down. Again in the 2000 and 2008. This is a co-created conflict with many complex tentacles. The sooner we all can hold a new narrative that includes the historical claims both peoples have to some of the land, and the way each have traumatized and been traumatized by each other with an eye toward a better future, the better it will be for both..and for all of us!
I take your point. I'm wondering how a new narrative can emerge, as per your excellent point that both Palestinians and Israelis have historical claims to some of the land. Those historical claims are the very hard nut to crack and the reason this situation persists. The history of the partition is beyond complex, I won't even begin to tackle it here. It is also a tragedy that leaders of both an Arab state (Anwar Sadat) and Israel (Yitzhak Rabin)have been assassinated in part because they were attempting to create a new narrative. Moving past this bloody history will be phenomenally difficult. We can only hope it will happen.
Yes it's deeply complex. Yet so many co-existence groups are already on the ground doing this work. October 7th was a set back but they are starting to grow again. Roots/Shorashim/Judur (friendsofroots.net) is a group I dearly love (they are about to do their yearly US tour and we are bringing them to the Bay Area again). They are doing the deepest healing work I know..of narrative, of the ways both have traumatized the other, they learn Hebrew and Arabic, study each other's religious texts and do work on the ground to stop the West Bank/JS violence. Many of the peoples from both are quite aligned with the something new idea/narrative and work. The leaders from both have been horrific..and yes, when good, have been assassinated. The only way through is that more and more leaders step forward. I think the fact that so many Muslim and Arab countries and the PA and Israel have all signed on to this deal is a very hopeful sign...the most hope I've seen since the last talks broke down in 2008.
Thank you for this clarity! Please run for president! 🙏🏻🇺🇸
Concerned also about so much destruction of the infrastructure of the United States by the Trump administration in less than a year.
Agree that Trump was only person who could push the Israelis and Hamas to end this now. Relieved for the hostages and their families, that they have now been freed.
Of course he could have done this eight months ago, but he wasn't interested after the inaugeration. Didn't need the extra headline at the time. Know it's only a coincidence this is happening around the time the Nobel peace prize is being awarded. And helps to distract folks from asking about those armed forces in our own cities and all this silly talk about Epstein.
Trump is too transactional and we've become too cynical to accept anything from him at face value.
Your point that we've become too cynical to accept anything Trump says at face value is spot on. I don't believe anything he says because he's said so many contradictory things, let alone his thousands of lies. IMO he can't be trusted.
Trump was not the only person who could have orchestrated a cease fire. Please don't build his importance. He calculated how he could benefit financially and politically and then acted in his own interests. This has also become a massive diversion from addressing Ukraine and strongly resisting Putin. Remember? "End it on the first day."
This peace deal will fall apart or it will succeed as Trump self deals and gives away the US to Arab countries. It’s already happening. A Qatari airbase in Idaho is only the first giveaway. Thank God the hostages are home. My heart is broken for the families whose loved ones didn’t make it. The history is more complicated than Trump knows or cares enough about to educate himself.
Trump is in this only for himself probably to grift off of others misfortunes and build a Trump hotel in Gaza. Unfortunately, he didn't get involved in this because he cares about peace.
I agree. If there is something in it for him, he will do what it takes to look like the hero, though he never is.(take the situation with Machado dedicating the Nobel Prize to him, when he probably threatened to stop his support of Venezuela if she didn't. BTW, I don't know just why he hates Maduro since he seems to like dictators. I'm sure there is a reason that's been a personal slight to him)
He hates Maduro because Maduro dislikes him. It's the same now with Xi. He liked Xi until Xi bested him.
Fits with his program, don't it!
I didn't realize Maduro doesn't like Trump. It seems like a match made in Hell, perfect for them both.
Why is everybody looking through “rose colored “ glasses. Neither Trump or Netanyahu can be trusted. They are liars and when it is opportune the feces will hit the fan and Gaza’s citizens will suffer again!
Yes. I can't see how that can work. A visionary that understands socialistic processes, and an understanding of the local cultures social values would be required - that would not be DJT. Big money people want to Capitalize the rebuild, but the people there need to be able to grow their own food. Start with water and sewage infrastructure and see where that goes.
Adam, I am grateful the hostages are all released. However, their nightmare and the Palestinians still continues. I grieve for the people of the region that need the basics of life; such as safe housing, food and water, etc. This as trump dreams of the next Noble Peace Prize and his already-created gaudy trump resort city. Thank you, Adam for educating us on this latest development!
I am feeling quite skeptical as to there being lasting peace in this region.