Thank you for sharing . I would be so happy with MAGA people leaving MAGA , I would never dislike them , I would be just happy that they finally see Trump for the horrible person he is .
The Republican Party might as well be called the "National Fascist Party" in honor of Benito Mussolini because that's what they have become.
The 6 judges on the Supreme Court clearly want Fascism to rule the country. Their decisions and delays are very revealing of who they are.
If there is any question on whether a police state could occur in this country just watch the goons 🥷manhandling the abducted detainees.
Finally I saved the best for last, the "Elected Felon Tyrant" 🦹♂️has been able to hypnotized half of the voting public more or less and turned them into zombies 🧟destroying everything they don't agree with.
BUT there is still hope, the last shoe has not dropped yet. We still have free and fair elections as of this moment. It's up to us to keep it that way. Will we? 🤔
I never thought that I would ever have to ask that question!!!
I just saw an amazing documentary on PBS American Masters series: Hannah Arendt:Facing Tyranny. It is an EYE OPENER! If anyone thinks what is happening now is not the same as what happened in 1930's Germany, you need to watch this episode. It is eerily similar including the observations she makes and some of her comments.
Diane1, Thank you for the information. I just watched the PBS Episode you referenced: "Hannah Arendt: Facing Tyranny." You are absolutely correct as you say "IT IS AN EYE OPENER." There are so many similarities between then and what Trump is doing now. You are absolutely correct when you say "If anyone thinks what is happening now is not the same as what happened in 1930's Germany, you need to watch this episode. It is eerily similar including the observations she makes and some of her comments."
Best this Felon was never born for the sake of our country and its people. The Felon will continue to retaliate against America due to Biden's DOJ prosecuting him for his many crimes. The Felon's son wants to continue the Trump dynasty after the Felon is gone by being the next President? Can you believe?
I think Trump wd be acting the way he is even without ‘Biden’s DOJ’ stuff. But it might add fuel to his fire, for sure.
— Speaking of fires — I suspect that by the end of Trump’s term he will be an exhausted old man AND his cultists will have experienced enough pain & disillusion that Don Jr. won’t have much impetus for keeping the MAGA fires burning.
We made not be able to vote... they might declare a faux emergency, delay the election. He's putting loyalists in at the Pentagon. Do you think that Supreme Court will come through? I don't.
Don Jr. already floated that balloon at a rally and was met with a collective yawn. So fingers crossed it's more like the post-Bush/Iraq active forgetting. Once the war crimes by Bondi, Miller, et al. have been punished, anyway.
Thank you for this conversation. I appreciate your honesty. I am a nurse who worked through COVID as a home health RN. Many homes had FOX News on 24/7. Family members refused to isolate or wear masks when I visited them. People died unnecessarily because of Trump and Fox. It was so unbelievably frustrating because other than their MAGA beliefs and indoctrination, they were good people. They were employed, cared for their loved ones, did not wake up thinking how can I expose others to a potentially fatal virus. Your work is critical.
Reading these pages is emotional rescue for many of us. Reading comments from other like-minded people makes us feel good that we are not the sole critical thinkers on the planet. However, it is time for us to cease these therapy sessions and engage in action. Cersei Lannister famously commented in The Game of Thrones – “In the game of thrones, you either win or you die”. Donald Trump is enforcing that concept and making it a reality with his grip on the US Government. We readers are articulate and capable of thoughtful analysis. Use those capabilities and write your Senator, or all the Senators as I did, to explain your experience and your perspective. It is not difficult to do so. While we are not a large contingent of non-conformists meeting in our virtual Paris café, we do have skills and capabilities that may prove important in this trying time. Use those skills. Do it today. It is as if the country’s future depends on it.
I have that nagging voice that tells me just posting with like-minded folk is not really doing anything too. Here's where I stand on it; we have to take action to make anything happen in the real world, no doubt. I'm not a churchy guy but "Faith without works is dead" is true for sure. We also have to encourage each other unceasingly. Coming here to listen and share my thoughts with friendly people strengthens me. I write these comments in hopes that they will strengthen you back. We have to work to make a future that we would like to see our children in and support each other as we do it. I guess it is kind of like church in that way. A place to come together and gain strength...and it's sacred.
Agreed: Action is vital to our survival as a democracy, and the exchanges we post here and elsewhere can be vital to our wellbeing. An action a day keeps authoritarianism at bay. Go team!
this afternoon I sent letters to Senator Thom Tillis and to Senator John Thune. Senator Thune, I suggested, should reclaim his constitutionally granted Congressional Authority and act to prevent Trump's Bill from rewarding China with disastrous policy which will harm Americans. Senator Tillis received complements for reclaiming his integrity and honor.
and Senator Lisa Murkowski and Senator Susan Collins. We need to flood the zone. With constructive commentary rather than the nonsense Steve Bannon puts forth. But flood the zone.
Conversations like this are crucial! Adam, I so appreciate your approach toward healing, acceptance, and empathy. More of this! How can we expand on this movement?
We need to hear your voice more loudly, Rich. Intelligent MAGAs are hard to find in the media, but you are clearly one who should be heard. An interview yesterday is characteristic. The woman being interviewed by some blogger said she firmly believed that Trump was being guided by God and that he was just doing God's work. Can't argue with her, bt that's the kind of MAGAs who get in the media. Speak up, man.
Without doubt, one of the most important conversations I have listened to. I have already shared the link to this with several friends. Thank you both so much.
I was a police officer many years ago, and I still vividly recall talking with gang members in our CA city, asking why they chose to belong: the answer was always "this is my family - my bros.".
the same goes for people who are in any kind of cult. When they break free, it is the same feeling, from cult or gang - the same feelings Rich talks about - lost people wanting more close family ties.
Thank you Marlene for your service and insight about the gang mentality. I just saw a local article about a gentleman who started a gang-conversion (my term) organization and they just had a graduation for 100!! That's exciting!
My younger brother has changed totally since he started supporting Trump . Yes I would absolutely call him MAGA . He said the word democrat with such hatred in his voice . I told him he’s not the brother that I loved , that he’s changed . He got up and left and refuses to even answer my text messages . What can I do ? This has been almost 2 months ago .
I am so very sorry, it breaks my heart I went through kinda same thing only it was my daughter my younger daughter and her husband had voted for him first time I not sure if they did second time I think it was crazy Kennedy anyway Fox is on all the time there I stay outside as I have 2 granddaughters that I am around my grandson is like my son in law we don’t talk politics at all anymore.
When my Oldest daughter got sick all went out the window she wasn’t in pain long 4 weeks she pasted away. We’ve become very close they don’t say anything about Trump at all anymore. I think their eyes are opening slowly. I pray they are. I ve had some bad thoughts about DJT WHERE THE JUSTICE IN THE WORLD WITH WHAT HE DONE TO Calif is bring this State together for a purpose. Taking Criminals is one thing but taking Dreamers and others that paid thousands of dollars for lawyers to become legal makes me sick. Tracking theming on their phones it’s evil the treatment that ICE does is SICK. I WANT some to drag Trump the same way. He deserves it more than dreamers. 34 count Felon would’ve been in jail had musk stayed out of election hacking using StarLink which a reporter found in solid BLUE COUNTY blue down ballot but result transfer pres was red nothing else he brought to attention of local radio station in Clark County, NV give the whole timeline on YouTube too while talking with reporter now nothing. Odd StarLink was used there. Here strange part MUSK Boring Co was in Violation of their hazards material law so he was fighting them. There’s little things like this that has happened in other states where the Supreme Court or the Democrat one he had two lawsuits coming up through to the Supreme Court why else would he want to buy that seat. There’s really a lot of fishy stuff this time to bomb threats in Georgia And I know there is an economic professor that wrote why Trump didn’t win his name Greg Palsta is his name last name might be misspelled. He broke all down too. It will come out when get honest person in WH again not the Corrupt creep now.
Thank you for sharing . I would be so happy with MAGA people leaving MAGA , I would never dislike them , I would be just happy that they finally see Trump for the horrible person he is .
Thanks for walking away, we need more people to do it like you because it only took MAGA 5 months to destroy the country!!!
Executive Branch✔️ Legislative Branch✔️ Judicial Branch✔️ Free & Fair Elections❓
The Republican Party might as well be called the "National Fascist Party" in honor of Benito Mussolini because that's what they have become.
The 6 judges on the Supreme Court clearly want Fascism to rule the country. Their decisions and delays are very revealing of who they are.
If there is any question on whether a police state could occur in this country just watch the goons 🥷manhandling the abducted detainees.
Finally I saved the best for last, the "Elected Felon Tyrant" 🦹♂️has been able to hypnotized half of the voting public more or less and turned them into zombies 🧟destroying everything they don't agree with.
BUT there is still hope, the last shoe has not dropped yet. We still have free and fair elections as of this moment. It's up to us to keep it that way. Will we? 🤔
I never thought that I would ever have to ask that question!!!
I just saw an amazing documentary on PBS American Masters series: Hannah Arendt:Facing Tyranny. It is an EYE OPENER! If anyone thinks what is happening now is not the same as what happened in 1930's Germany, you need to watch this episode. It is eerily similar including the observations she makes and some of her comments.
https://www.pbs.org/video/hannah-arendt-facing-tyranny-opk5p9/
Diane1, Thank you for the information. I just watched the PBS Episode you referenced: "Hannah Arendt: Facing Tyranny." You are absolutely correct as you say "IT IS AN EYE OPENER." There are so many similarities between then and what Trump is doing now. You are absolutely correct when you say "If anyone thinks what is happening now is not the same as what happened in 1930's Germany, you need to watch this episode. It is eerily similar including the observations she makes and some of her comments."
We just saw it. Her quote "The Past Never Dies". Amen too that!!!
Thanks for the reference, were going to watch it tomorrow.
Best this Felon was never born for the sake of our country and its people. The Felon will continue to retaliate against America due to Biden's DOJ prosecuting him for his many crimes. The Felon's son wants to continue the Trump dynasty after the Felon is gone by being the next President? Can you believe?
I think Trump wd be acting the way he is even without ‘Biden’s DOJ’ stuff. But it might add fuel to his fire, for sure.
— Speaking of fires — I suspect that by the end of Trump’s term he will be an exhausted old man AND his cultists will have experienced enough pain & disillusion that Don Jr. won’t have much impetus for keeping the MAGA fires burning.
We made not be able to vote... they might declare a faux emergency, delay the election. He's putting loyalists in at the Pentagon. Do you think that Supreme Court will come through? I don't.
Don Jr. already floated that balloon at a rally and was met with a collective yawn. So fingers crossed it's more like the post-Bush/Iraq active forgetting. Once the war crimes by Bondi, Miller, et al. have been punished, anyway.
Thank you for this conversation. I appreciate your honesty. I am a nurse who worked through COVID as a home health RN. Many homes had FOX News on 24/7. Family members refused to isolate or wear masks when I visited them. People died unnecessarily because of Trump and Fox. It was so unbelievably frustrating because other than their MAGA beliefs and indoctrination, they were good people. They were employed, cared for their loved ones, did not wake up thinking how can I expose others to a potentially fatal virus. Your work is critical.
Thank you for doing your difficult work through all of that!
Thank you for this conversation! It gives me hope!
We need more people like this guy to keep speaking out. Brave.
Thank you for sharing especially now
Thank you for this. All are welcome in opposition to authoritarianism.
Reading these pages is emotional rescue for many of us. Reading comments from other like-minded people makes us feel good that we are not the sole critical thinkers on the planet. However, it is time for us to cease these therapy sessions and engage in action. Cersei Lannister famously commented in The Game of Thrones – “In the game of thrones, you either win or you die”. Donald Trump is enforcing that concept and making it a reality with his grip on the US Government. We readers are articulate and capable of thoughtful analysis. Use those capabilities and write your Senator, or all the Senators as I did, to explain your experience and your perspective. It is not difficult to do so. While we are not a large contingent of non-conformists meeting in our virtual Paris café, we do have skills and capabilities that may prove important in this trying time. Use those skills. Do it today. It is as if the country’s future depends on it.
"I stood proud, I stood tall
High above it all
I still believed in my dreams"
"Like a Rock"
I have that nagging voice that tells me just posting with like-minded folk is not really doing anything too. Here's where I stand on it; we have to take action to make anything happen in the real world, no doubt. I'm not a churchy guy but "Faith without works is dead" is true for sure. We also have to encourage each other unceasingly. Coming here to listen and share my thoughts with friendly people strengthens me. I write these comments in hopes that they will strengthen you back. We have to work to make a future that we would like to see our children in and support each other as we do it. I guess it is kind of like church in that way. A place to come together and gain strength...and it's sacred.
Agreed. It is as if our country's future depends on it.
Agreed: Action is vital to our survival as a democracy, and the exchanges we post here and elsewhere can be vital to our wellbeing. An action a day keeps authoritarianism at bay. Go team!
this afternoon I sent letters to Senator Thom Tillis and to Senator John Thune. Senator Thune, I suggested, should reclaim his constitutionally granted Congressional Authority and act to prevent Trump's Bill from rewarding China with disastrous policy which will harm Americans. Senator Tillis received complements for reclaiming his integrity and honor.
and Senator Lisa Murkowski and Senator Susan Collins. We need to flood the zone. With constructive commentary rather than the nonsense Steve Bannon puts forth. But flood the zone.
Conversations like this are crucial! Adam, I so appreciate your approach toward healing, acceptance, and empathy. More of this! How can we expand on this movement?
“Born again human being!” I love that. Thank you for this deeply informative and moral conversation.
We need to hear your voice more loudly, Rich. Intelligent MAGAs are hard to find in the media, but you are clearly one who should be heard. An interview yesterday is characteristic. The woman being interviewed by some blogger said she firmly believed that Trump was being guided by God and that he was just doing God's work. Can't argue with her, bt that's the kind of MAGAs who get in the media. Speak up, man.
A very important conversation thank you for this. I’ve shared it with who I can.
Without doubt, one of the most important conversations I have listened to. I have already shared the link to this with several friends. Thank you both so much.
So glad to hear of this movement - much needed.
I was a police officer many years ago, and I still vividly recall talking with gang members in our CA city, asking why they chose to belong: the answer was always "this is my family - my bros.".
the same goes for people who are in any kind of cult. When they break free, it is the same feeling, from cult or gang - the same feelings Rich talks about - lost people wanting more close family ties.
Thank you Marlene for your service and insight about the gang mentality. I just saw a local article about a gentleman who started a gang-conversion (my term) organization and they just had a graduation for 100!! That's exciting!
My younger brother has changed totally since he started supporting Trump . Yes I would absolutely call him MAGA . He said the word democrat with such hatred in his voice . I told him he’s not the brother that I loved , that he’s changed . He got up and left and refuses to even answer my text messages . What can I do ? This has been almost 2 months ago .
Same here. Brother and his wife and adult kids, sister who died without ever even speaking to me again. MAGA=no more family relationship outside MAGA.
I am so very sorry, it breaks my heart I went through kinda same thing only it was my daughter my younger daughter and her husband had voted for him first time I not sure if they did second time I think it was crazy Kennedy anyway Fox is on all the time there I stay outside as I have 2 granddaughters that I am around my grandson is like my son in law we don’t talk politics at all anymore.
When my Oldest daughter got sick all went out the window she wasn’t in pain long 4 weeks she pasted away. We’ve become very close they don’t say anything about Trump at all anymore. I think their eyes are opening slowly. I pray they are. I ve had some bad thoughts about DJT WHERE THE JUSTICE IN THE WORLD WITH WHAT HE DONE TO Calif is bring this State together for a purpose. Taking Criminals is one thing but taking Dreamers and others that paid thousands of dollars for lawyers to become legal makes me sick. Tracking theming on their phones it’s evil the treatment that ICE does is SICK. I WANT some to drag Trump the same way. He deserves it more than dreamers. 34 count Felon would’ve been in jail had musk stayed out of election hacking using StarLink which a reporter found in solid BLUE COUNTY blue down ballot but result transfer pres was red nothing else he brought to attention of local radio station in Clark County, NV give the whole timeline on YouTube too while talking with reporter now nothing. Odd StarLink was used there. Here strange part MUSK Boring Co was in Violation of their hazards material law so he was fighting them. There’s little things like this that has happened in other states where the Supreme Court or the Democrat one he had two lawsuits coming up through to the Supreme Court why else would he want to buy that seat. There’s really a lot of fishy stuff this time to bomb threats in Georgia And I know there is an economic professor that wrote why Trump didn’t win his name Greg Palsta is his name last name might be misspelled. He broke all down too. It will come out when get honest person in WH again not the Corrupt creep now.
I'm so sorry for what you're both going through. Maybe the guide the speaker offered on his website could help? I'm thinking about getting it.
I have a similar issue with my sister. It's a horrible feeling to have.
Great guest! Rich Logis is doing such important and courageous work. Thank you Adam and thank you Rich Logis!
Interesting conversation, I’m glad to hear this! Thank you for sharing!
What seems to be the thing that starts the ‘leaving MAGA’ move?
Are there signs we should look for?