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Linda's avatar

I am a native of Los Angeles and agree completely: DO NOT WAVE/WEAR THE MEXICAN FLAG during the protests. Think about it! You are protesting being deported back to Mexico, yet, you wave or wear the Mexican flag. It does not make sense. This inflames anti-immigration sentiment.

Adam Kinzinger's avatar

It is all about optics. NOT the symbolism. Everyone has a right to. But it doesn’t work in narrative, so it’s a recommendation!

Kimberlie Hammerschmidt's avatar

I like the idea of unity in diversity and having the flags next to each-other. When we were stationed in Spain, we had pins with the Spanish flag and the American flag.

Lois W. Halbert's avatar

Agree totally. We understand but it is recommended that they carry the American flag since they want to remain here and want others not to be deported.

Laura Fraser's avatar

Agreed.

The protests are supposed to reflect Americans protesting the ICE raids and deportations without due process. Solidarity. The Mexican flags just provide fodder for the MAGAs. It IS about the optics, whether one likes that or not.

Mike Archbold's avatar

I think the key is to make sure the Stars and Stripes are included somehow in the display.

Mike Archbold's avatar

I saw a woman carrying both at once in Seattle. It seemed fine to me. I realize it is part of their identity.

Linda's avatar

We all have various identities but, under these circumstances, it’s more about optics and convincing us they are “worthy” of remaining and becoming documented residents of the USA. Aside from a few years in the Mid-West, I have lived in California my entire long life. Grew up in LA. I have seen many people overemphasize, euphemistically said, their “identity” to the point where it becomes anti-USA. They should make a choice. Either make allegiance to the flag of the country you move to and live in OR go back. We all have ancestors who came from other lands. At some point, they swore allegiance to the Constitution of the USA.

Mike Archbold's avatar

I get it. If it were up to me I'd say just the American flag!

But I'm not Hispanic and probably you aren't. Imagine if there were many Americans living in, say Quebec City, imagine us. Suddenly the government is pulling Americans out of cars and deporting them, destination unknown. Would you fly the Canadian flag even though you wanted to live in Quebec?

Meggles's avatar

Both, sure. But not the Mexican flag *only*. I know how my R in-laws think (I'm a former R), and that image is SO counter-productive...I can't even begin to describe how counter-productive it is!

Kimberlie Hammerschmidt's avatar

I like blended flags. We used to live be stationed in Spain and we had pins that had the American flag and the Spanish flag together showing unity

sharon langerman's avatar

Totally agree do not fly the Mex flag if your protesting deportation MAGA loves it

Lois W. Halbert's avatar

I know they mean well but someone needs to tell them that is the wrong optic.

Dave Eddy's avatar

Don't be knuckleheads. If you want overwhelming Public support, at least use intertwining flags. You are up against Monsters. What do I know ? I grew up in East L. A. County & am a LowRider.

TLM's avatar

Trump opened pandora's box of hatred, racism, cruelty, selfishness. fascism etc. I'm old enough though to remember people cheering when Kennedy was assassinated. Also at 911. I thought we had moved past hatred but I guess not. The sign of an advanced civilization is how it treats its poor, elderly , children. We are uncivilized with Trump. I pray that it turns around before I leave this world.

Julie's avatar

Mike Lee is for sale. I've never liked him, either. His dad was an honorable man and I can't understand what created Mike Lee. He's despicable and an embarrassment to me. I feel like I have to apologize for Utah inflicting him on the world.

Bonnie Leimberger's avatar

Republicans learned long ago to message politics through the gut and not the brain.

I agree that my party 💙needs to stop with the cerebral response and discern what creates passion in the electorate.

Trump goes for the ugliest of human emotions. We can campaign and win with what is good and worth fighting for in America.

Ditch the doctoral dissertations. Go for the gut, show you have guts, and stand up for good stuff.

There is so much potential in the USA. I saw it this weekend.

Thanks to our incredible diversity and complexity we have amazing food, music, and talent. I’m sick of Steven Miller’s white-bread only, cold bowl of gruel diet. How bland and soulless.

The path forward is “With Liberty and Justice for All” of US.

Liz Griffin's avatar

Érica Chenoweth, Harvard political scientist, said her research has shown that when we are able to mobilize 3.5 percent of the population into protests, we are most likely to cause political change. According to the Guardian, 11 million people protested in No Kings protests on 6/14/25. So we only need a half million more people to join the ongoing protests to shake up Trump’s authoritarian backsliding.

Cathy R's avatar

I have seen that information repeated a lot. One thing that I wonder about, since we are such a large country geographically is 3.5 percent of the population spread out across the country as noticeable as in other countries that are geographically smaller.

Carolanne's avatar

I loved your guest today. I love seeing the rapport between people who used to be in on opposite camps. Also, I so agree with the "unfuckability" irony of Charlie Kirk et al speaking of masculinity and the failure of femininity. It's just another way to prey on insecurities of both men and women. He is an intellectual feather weight.

Meggles's avatar

Yes, great rapport here. Really enjoyed this.

State of Play's avatar

life long republican and Never Trumper since 2015 here.

100000000% agree with Adam that DEMOCRATS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO FIGHT EFFECTIVELY in the way Republicans do.

MAGA is waging ASYMMETRIC INFORMATION WARFARE against them.

No Kings Day was encouraging because FINALLY we started to see Democrats learn how to FIGHT BACK.

I hope Dems can absolutely hear and accept the lessons we dejected Never Trumpers can offer.

We didn't stop him from taking over the GOP. But we can help stop him from taking over the USA. And we are more determined THAN EVER to do WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE (peacefully) to stop him.

God bless, Adam. much love, much respect. o7

Give proof through the night!!!

Jamie Butts's avatar

I have so many thoughts. . . .

I am old enough to remember when Republicans and Democrats had logical debates based on the issues and TRUTH. As a Democrat, I'd like to think I can still engage in healthy debate with a conservative. I think we became really bad "fighters" when the discussions became cartoonishly ridiculous and devoid of logic- for me, I don't argue with people who are completely removed from reality. I actually don't know HOW to fight with someone who denies truth and facts. And so I think it is with the entire Democratic party. . .

At this point, I say throw spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks; fight with logic, fight with scare tactics, fight with whatever will work. The stakes are too high not to. And I think I speak for the vast majority of Democrats when I say we've always been (at least in my lifetime) a "big tent" party- we have always thrived and reveled in diversity of person and opinion. We are more than happy to add some Republicans/Former-Republicans/Never Trumpers (especially the Never Trumpers) to our tent.

I do hate to hear so many former Republicans say they have no party- you do, Trump just hijacked it because he HAS no party. You'd have to have a belief system to do that. I hope one day you can take it back

Agent#99's avatar

Mike Lee represents everything I despise about many of today's politicians, especially on the MAGA right. First, express empathy or sympathy for the victims. Second, realize that "The Blame Game" doesn't do anyone any good on the surface. Third, please grow up and stop using words like "Marxist" that you don't understand or know how to apply; that would require a much deeper dive into the perpetrator, and even then, it's only an assumption.

Mary Trump says that insulting her uncle is the best way to get at him, lol, that, and talking about the small crowd sizes that he has compared to others' larger ones. :)

ostoja1939's avatar

💯💯💯 its a good and evil optics campaign being waged right now. they love ruscia bc they swallowed the kgbfsbpropaganda. the rules of war have changed and dems don't get it. it's about winning against that propaganda while not feeding into THEIR optics propaganda.

Jeanne Marie's avatar

Trump is utterly evil, disgusting, insane and demented. How can no one see that?

Leslee Miller's avatar

I’m from Utah and Mike Lee is a total embarrassment. What a douche.

Cynthia Noel's avatar

Is there someone keeping an 👁 on Vought from Project 2025? He's taking over for DOGE Admin....

Cynthia Noel's avatar

Thanks you guys! This weekend was fabulous! "Takin' it to the streets..." "We the people..." are fed up! And we're prepared to keep on keeping on 🦅🇺🇸🦅

Lucille Sanchez-corea's avatar

Happy warriors ‼️👍🏻

As always, I really appreciate your continued message that it’s all of us fighting for democracy and the constitution.

Keep up the good work.

A helpful hint to retain sanity. Checkout TCM. They more frequently than ever are showing movies such as Mr Deeds Goes To Washington, Sargeant York, etc.😇

Elaine Winter's avatar

We had 5 million on the streets.